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sadly despite warning it DID happen that a user tried to sell Obertaurers for points, with Obertaurer owners bidding.
This group really does not have many rules but if even the ones that are there aren't taken seriously,
what on earth can one do?

The journal to inform about WHY there aren't Obertaurers sold for points: obertaurer.deviantart.com/jour…

Sorrel-Feather has no more license to breed Obertaurers.
Also in order to prevent having my designs sold behind my back i take the liberty to reclaim these horses:

& & Obertaurer Imports 2013- Roan by abosz007

They are now back at RPS and will be able to be purchased for art during the import-season.



:snowflake::snowflake::snowflake:Please dear owners and breeders:snowflake::snowflake::snowflake:

Respect a breed's standards, creators from every dA-breed put a lot of effort into their horses, breed sheets and designs,
No matter what their aim with the breed is. When you agree to purchase an original breed you also agree to the
terms they go with ... :' )
This shouldn't mean stress and shouldn't cause you complications, but whats the point to even go for one,
if you have no idea about their purpose?
I've lately seen a few lads complaining about breed standards, but honestly, most of those complains sound
like people are simply having a problem with not being the boss of the breed XD
This must be the reason which led to have very very similar breeds around the equine corner, to
create a horse that can do all the things one liked in a breed just strike out the dislikes of a standard and be the owner
of the breed instead.
All i can ask for is that everybody should calm down and be responsible and respectful.
Respect each others breeds and the terms they come with, and be a responsible owner.
Everybody says hey its just pixels XDD YEAH they are, so if one cant take responsibility over some pixels,
what about anything alive ?!
:giggle:



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:new: AHOY.

Just letting members know that in future :iconsamurai-same:samuRAI-same is the shiny new
Quartermaster aboard x) Better take her seriously she can make people walk the plank too ID

So mates, please respond to her advices/suggestions just as nicely and cooperatively like you do when the creator says so :)
I am really happy this group is still such a peaceful yet active place where things happen in a nice and slow
pace like in the beginning ^^

MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO ALL
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Seems like we got a Problem.

Circumstances made it needed to remind people of a few STANDARDS of the Breed!


It is no joke to have rare/untypical colors of the breed!
DO NOT ask for pure Obertaurers to be Dominant white - because there are none!

DO NOT hope that you create a fancy (much diluted) Admiralskaya because they will be categorized as Obertaurers
not any rare Admiralskaya. THEIR SOLID COLORED.
-please read current lectures if you dont know what this means-

DO NOT create dark solid colored Obertaurers because their untypical. MOST of the times
Obertaurers have modifying genes aka Dun, Cream, Roan, Silver, Sabino, Tobiano, Overo, Champagne, flaxen, pangare, Conversation, Snowflake.
IF YOU focus on finding often two solid Obertaurer parents to breed "rare Obertaurers"(untypical) the stable WILL LOSE ITS BREEDING LICENSE.
these people are harming Obertaurers breed standards by throwing over board their typical traits and focus on untypical breeding.

if you are not okay with an Obertaurers standard looks and feel like doing things on the contrary, there sure are breeds out there
which have those colors as common.

As reminder: its still a hazard to own Black Obertaurers because they tend to get misteriously stolen.

Happy Breeding! :heart:
-Lyo







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Ahoy ya Obertaurer Owners!

There had been some reasons why it began to be necessary for this Group to be more sorted.
The growing amount of Obertaurers at HARPG is a sign, a good sign that this breed
fulfills it's job as many-faced warmblood and companion of Riders, and
a good reason to start make it easier to keep track with these Horses.

Due to breed-mistakes, unregistered horses, uncontrolled breedings this became really hard.
We hope its not too much asked for ,of all Obertaurer Owners, to Register their Horses from now on.

Before the Official Obertaurer Hunt would begin, we'd like to sort these things out first.


:bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue:So What's New?::bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue:


:bulletblue: Obertaurers (Their Official Reference Sheet) HAVE to show up the Group Icon on their page,
If you find a Horse who is written as Obertaurer, and there is no Group Icon Below, IT IS NOT A REGISTERED OBERTAURER!

(Everyone could say they own an Obertaurer but without papers they don't really have a PROOF their horse is one)

:bulletblue: Your Horse has NO BREEDING LICENSE if it is not registered. There is no Limit for what you are using your Horses,
Eventing, Dressage, Haute Ecole, Western, Stunts, Broodmare, Stud, Companion Horse, Babysitter, Beer Dealer, Blindhorse
But it has to be Registered with this Group.

(If you booked a Breeding with an Unregistered Obertaurer, it wont be accepted by this Group )

:bulletblue: Black Obertaurer Owners Attention: There is not much known about this case, but Black Obertaurers
seem to be getting stolen frequently. Make sure you take care of your horse we will try to find out more about this problem.





:bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue:What do owners have to do?::bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue::bulletwhite::bulletblue:

simple.
step by step:

:bulletred: Make Sure you submit your Horse's reference to the Group

:bulletred: Send a Note to the OBERTAURER GROUP with THESE INFOS:

NAME: (+ Reference, there shouldn't be Double Names in future, anyways not possible with HARPG Registered Horses)
TYPE: (Pure, AMI, ÖSI, HUN, OTXObertaurer+Warmblood, SporthorseObertaurer+TB, Crossbreed/halfbloodObertaurer+any other breed )
GENDER (remember there are NO geldings xD)
COLOR: (+ Genetics. You always get genetics with your horse its never unknown, if it is, ask RPS about a test)
DISCIPLINE: (Any Discipline)
BLOODLINE: (there are NO Starter Obertaurers, except the HUNTED ones, prove a Bloodline, or your Request Letter for the Hunt)

:bulletred: There will be a List in Future, where Breeders can easily scroll around on the Page
if they are Looking for the perfect match.
It will be easier to find the right gender, type, Discipline, color and even take a look if your horse has similar bloodlines.

:bulletred: Anytime a New Obertaurer Foal is born at your stables it needs to be registered,
but you can also wait until your youngsters are grown up and send the note as a batch of the horses for getting the breeding license.

:bulletred: There is no maximum amount of Obertaurers you are allowed to own, but make sure they don't get neglected and respect descisions if the Group is the opinion you have way to many horses and take the breeding license
(MEANS if your mare has like 30 foals thats not really the point of having an Obertaurer)





This Breed is very important to Royale Pirate Stables and their Founder-Stable, The Black Knights Camp.
Respect your Horses and enjoy their company.
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CieloNord Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Not to be rude or anything.... But calling out another artists name will just direct your community to go give them hate. 
I'm really not trying to be rude, I'm merely trying to make the point that essentially, this journal is sending hate directly to the user named and if there is an issue, then the person should not be named but the horses could be.

I've seen this happen before in a few groups and more often than not the amount of bullying that comes from the community of people is just... It's shocking..


With all due respect to you of course. Just voicing an opinion. :)
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abosz007 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015  Student Digital Artist
oh i regretted this move terribly , was just really pissed at that point and shouldnt have called names definitely :C
But from a certain view i didnt want to step back and delete this journal if its once up and i felt it justified the moment i submitted,
however i learned from it and will try to avoid in future. 
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CieloNord Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I agree with you to some degree yes. It is good that you pointed it out at the time. This has happened before I think with various other groups. Not entirely sure.
It's always good to make a stand for what you believe in and set something straight if someone makes a wrong move. 
I myself have experienced this where i have had designs given out and then later on, found them sold to someone else when I clearly stated not to do so.

Always a shame when people think it's a good idea to and ignore the rules.

Other than naming, you did a good job on bringing this point to view and I respect how well you dealt with the situation.

I saw import season is closed. Perhaps i'll try next season. ^^"
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FunVolcano Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
When where there be more imports? I love this breed!
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GabiHorseArt98 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Student General Artist
This is Fair! I liked :D
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CSStables Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Professional General Artist
Oh man, the paragraph about respecting other people's breeds just sings to me. Sorry this happened, hope in the future this will become a unheard of problem. 
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Moonpaw449 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh no! I had a breeding with Red Hot Rage! Am I still able to go on with it? I really don't want to lose it...

I'm sorry this situation happened Cursey. :hug: I wish people could follow the rules. It's one simple rule, why get yourself banned for it? It's a game, and you get consequences for cheating. I hope this shows other people that the rules are in place for a reason.
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Arly-Barly-Wartek Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Psst! Yes you can! C: 
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Moonpaw449 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! Let me know when he's reregistered, so I can log his reference in the breeding image.
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abosz007 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
he is now with Arly-Barly-Wartek : )
maybe ask her about the issue?
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:iconmoonpaw449:
Moonpaw449 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for letting me know.
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ANIMALGIRL1869 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014
ooohhhhhh I see why
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:iconboooberry:
Boooberry Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014
:iconshikamarufacepalm:
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:iconabosz007:
abosz007 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
that icon XDD <3
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:iconboooberry:
Boooberry Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014
one of my faves :heart:
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samuRAI-same Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014
bahah my god that shika icon works so well xDDDD
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:iconboooberry:
Boooberry Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014
I know right?! :XD:
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:iconikiuni:
Ikiuni Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That silver blue roan stud muffin is a real beauity. *w* <3
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Ninuturu Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would love to try with art for Roan once he's up during the next hunting season ^^ he seems to be like a great horse
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MoonyArsaraidh Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmmm..Cursey, wenn Arly keines der Tiere nimmt / bekommt hätte ich Interesse an Red Hot Rage oder eben dem Roan Import. Bevorzugt den Import.
Sag mir bitte Bescheid, ob es eine Möglichkeit gibt und wenn ja, welche dann :)
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abosz007 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Arly hatte schon einen deal mit sorrel ausgehandelt und wollt ihr jetzt helfen das auch so bleibt damit alle so halbwegs glücklich sein weil arly sorrels freundin ist :giggle: 
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MoonyArsaraidh Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, kein Problem.
Bevor se halt auch sonstwo landen hätt ich eines durchaus aufgenommen ;)
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Arly-Barly-Wartek Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
For your information, Sorrel had sold them to me for art. We were talking about it via notes. I: 
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abosz007 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Student Digital Artist
i really can not be sure about that anymore after she didnt pay attention to group rules multiple times and turned out yesterday she never even read the new breed sheets :shrug: feel free to contact me about it however.
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KalahariMeerkatfan Featured By Owner May 2, 2014
I have a question. Should we put the group icon on horses that are already approved? Like...my horse Manga for example. She was accepted before the rule so should I include the icon now or is it for horses after this?
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
the icon is there..when its registered..automatically Oo
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KalahariMeerkatfan Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
...But that's usually under groups?
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saphiraly Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Manche Leute... ich hätte auch gerne nen schwarzen Obertaurer, aber ich bin genauso glücklich mit meinem kunterbunten Haufen^^
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
aber wieso? :lmao: ich verstehs nicht isses nicht leichter einen schwarzen hanno zu haben wenn man schwarze designs will ^^"?
Admiralskaya können/sollen schwarz sein wieso dann nicht diese linie versuchen zu bekommen ^^"
aber schwarze Obertaurer sind nunmal untypisch wie braune lipizzaner :(
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saphiraly Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also ich will ja auch nen Admiralskaya XD
Ich denke, es ist eben der Seltensheitswert. Blöd gesagt, wie mit nem iPod. Nen einfachen guten MP3-player kriegst du wesentlich günstiger, aber die Marke dahinter macht es eben besonders^^
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
werd auf jedenfall untypische Obertaurer einfach nicht registrieren wenns so weit kommt XDDDD
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saphiraly Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
gute Idee^^

Ich versuche mich solange weiter an nem Admiralskaya x3
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Padfoot7411 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wonder whose stealing all the black obertaurers?
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
a nice little unity in the mountains xPP
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Padfoot7411 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xDD I bet!
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Kirayli Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ich find die bunten Pferde immer viel schöner als die langweiligen dunklen ;)
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:iconabosz007:
abosz007 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
OHHHHH dafür gibts aber ein glomp :lmao: :glomp:
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MoonyArsaraidh Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wie gut dass ich mit meiner schwarzen Perle seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehr eigen bin und ihn nicht freigebe für dieses Zuchtprogramm hier. Sicher will ich mal Nachwuchs von ihm, aber bis dahin..wird er behütet wie die Kronjuwelen Englands ^^
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MythicalPrancer Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
By black you only mean solid black right? *huggles conquistador* x
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
yes yours is all fine dont worry ^^
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MythicalPrancer Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
thank god :) xx
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inglorious-vikings Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Ohman, das is mir auch letztens erst irgendwie aufgefallen, dass es plötzlich mehr schwarze Obertaurer gibt, als ich mir gedacht hab, dass es geben sollte. Is ja, sozusagen, die seltenste Farbe von ihnen. Aber irgendwie immer das gleiche, kaum ist was selten, wollen's alle haben, kommt mir vor. XD
*anonymous grabs un an sich drück* Den kriegt aber keiner. <3
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
ja ich weiß aber ich werds sicher nicht lassen die könn andere rassen aufn kopf stellen aber Obertaurer nicht :lmao:
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inglorious-vikings Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Find ich gut! Bin ich voll dafür! Ich find das ja bei Sara auch so gut, dass sie da hart bleibt und sagt, ne, Demantur ist der einzige rote Hototo, weil es gibt echt so viele Rassen, wo dann die Leute natürlich die seltenen Farben und so wollen und am Ende sind dann die 'normalen' Farben die eigentlich seltenen. XD
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
ja ich versteh nicht wieso das manche übern haufen rennen wollen :( is ja sowas wie den breed creator fett ignorieren xDD
hahah naja manchmal is ein special färbiges pferd trotzdem special wenns der einzige bleibt xP
Converse farbige gibts jetz einige aber sogar die farbe heißt so wie der vorgänger :giggle:
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inglorious-vikings Featured By Owner May 30, 2013
Yep, ich versteh's auch nicht, aber denken und so is ja leider oft nicht so weit verbreitet. XD
Das stimmt, bei meinen Elemental Warriors krieg ich ja auch immer wieder Anfragen auf Luft Warrior, aber die gibt's nicht außer zwei und aus, da bleib ich hart, hab ich mir fest vorgenommen. ;3
Ja, stimmt, besonders seine 'Augenbrauen' haben ja einige Pferdchen. ;3
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Arly-Barly-Wartek Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
D: I have a problem. ;; I'm getting to black obertaurer foals. One is a grey diluted one so it'll loose it's black coat when it grows and the other is a plain black. D: I hope this isn't a problem. I didn't plan it as well. Me and the person getting the foals looked at the genetic possibilities and we decided upon these two because it'd make a very good story too once they were born. x.x Hope this isn't a problem!
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abosz007 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
the plain black has to be redesigned then sorry :(
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:iconarly-barly-wartek:
Arly-Barly-Wartek Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Could I not pay with point or real money?
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:iconabosz007:
abosz007 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
no...Obertaurers should be equal to everyone also those without points :( and people paying money for rare horses will only increase the fact to turn my whole idea of the breed on the head.
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